Is 燃气灶台 / 嵌入式燃气灶 Worth Selling?

“In my current flat I have a Samsung oven with a black glass touch panel. It takes about five minutes to adjust the temperature and don't get me started on the timer. The power button ISN'T BACKLIT either so you have to fumble around trying to work out where it actually is. I've resorted to just putting little sticky dots on it to show me where all of the buttons are, but it's still a friggin nuisance. Bring back knobs. Knobs were fine.”

“We just spent over $4,000 on a new oven. Mostly we ended up spending that much because we refused to look at anything with a bunch of fucking electronics crammed into it. My new stove has knobs and switches. No LEDs or beeps or (fuck me) bluetooth and wifi. There have been expensive boutique options for a while, but I think some manufacturers are starting to realize there's a market for it, that physical controls are something some people will pay a premium for.”

“Just air bnb'd at a place with stove like this. Had to touch a spot on the stove to activate a burner, then slide your finger along a bar to indicate the heat level. No feedback haptic either. Then for some reason it would turn off mid cooking on its own. Couldn't figure it out well enough to make a batch of bacon.”

“The more technology and gizmos in an appliance, the more potential issues and things that can go wrong.”

“if you have LP you probably need to change out the orifices in the stove. gas stoves can do natural gas or LP (liquid propane), each requires a special part.....you should have a blue flame no matter what, so i already know you have the wrong parts in there...get the right ones, swap them out, not hard to do....stop using it until you do.”

“Could be the orifices. Orifice size differs for natural gas and propane. There is also high altitude orifices.”

“It looks like the left burner wasn't properly converted to LP.”

“Something is very, very wrong. Do not use the yellow flame burner. Can't speak to the broken English instructions and mention of outdoors…. Other than the yellow flame should only be used outdoors, never inside.”

“A couple of FYIs on the cooktop specifically: the cost of the cooktop itself is one thing, but many people don't realize the extra costs that come with it. Specifically, in the US/Canada (and likely many other parts of the world) once you exceed 400CFM on your vent hood (which is easy to do when sizing the vent for a gas cooktop), you're required to supply "make up air".”

“You can vent microwave/hood combos outside. I had one at my last home that did so. The problem is a lot of range hoods, even dedicated ones, are not vented outside because it's simply cheaper/easier for them to not be.”

“We always run the overhead vent when cooking on the gas stove or we'll smell a hint of gas after. And this is a 4 year old Bosch unit.”

“In this order…Wolf, Miele, Thermador, Bluestar. Everything else I would not bother with”

“Apparently high end gas ranges categorically tend to have problems with igniters. Have you considered induction? You'll be able to pair it with a much less powerful vent hood (360-390 cfm) which generally means quieter, and not install a make up air system.”

“Companies stopped building things to last when they began being traded publicly. If you build 40 year fridges yea it's great at first when you sell them all but how do you keep selling them if everyone's happy with their current setup? Make them cheaper. Make them more complicated. Make key components out of plastic rather than steel so parts will break within a few years.”

“God i wish all appliances went back to solid replaceable analog parts.”

“It's hard to compare the gas range to the wok burner, and there's no comparison between the wok burner and induction. It probably depends on how you like to cook though. For me, I need to be able to constantly pick up the pan and toss without immediately losing heat. If you're like me I would recommend a gas range with adequate ventilation (a high powered wok burner if possible), and a countertop induction burner.”

“Your insurance company will deny your fire claim when they see 'not for residential use' on the data plate and in the manufacturer spec sheet.”

“The basic rules were no combustible material within 18" to either side, a fire proof wall finish behind it, and a high CFM exhaust fan. We had room to keep the cabinets away on both sides, used marble tile on 1/2" masonry backer board for the wall, and installed an 1800CFM centrifugal roof fan. It worked for this one rather unusual instance. I doubt I would do it again.”

“Evidently it developed a gas leak internally and when I went to light a burner it sounded like a bomb went off. Amazingly the glass top didn't shatter but the entire unit popped out of the countertop and the frame was bent and bulging in spots. I contacted Whirlpool just to warn them that they may have a defect with this model and they basically just said that it was an old unit and problems were to be expected... Needless to say I haven't purchased another Whirlpool appliance”

“Absolutely the fuck not normal. I don't know what the issue is, I'm not even particularly skilled with appliances, but anything in your house the shoots fire out of an area where there is not supposed to be fire is very dangerous. Don't use it, I suggest you just replace it or call a licensed professional.”

“Hmm, did the factory screw up silkscreening on your range? That's wild”